[Gretl-users] Gretl-users Digest, Vol 68, Issue 7 Gretl use on tablets

Garry Stamm gstamm at stamm.ca
Fri Sep 7 12:36:03 EDT 2012



Gentlemen
I use Gretl in professional work (although not a retired economist) and find it
extremely useful.First I just want to thank all of you that contribute so much
to making such a fabulous tool available. (It has forcibly extended my working
life.)

The topic of Gretl on a tablet  is an interesting one and will become more so as
tablets are better married to keyboards and other input devices.

A quick suggestion:

QNX, which is now the core of the Blackberry tablet, and is being moved into
position to be the core OS of their phones has a high degree of compatibility
with linux/unix and uses a real time approach. Anyone with the skills (that I
unfortunately lack) can use the dingleberry program to open the core operating
system on the Blackberry tablet. Those with the system administration skills can
attempt to compile Gretl in the blackberry tablet. It should not prove too
difficult to do, no more than keeping it going on Ubuntu or Fedora, for example.
Although ipad with its similar unix-based os has the clear edge on consumer
favour at the moment, --  and a migration to that platform is clearly called
for, the Blackberry and android driven tablets are also out there and available
to a much wider set of international users.

regards


On September 7, 2012 at 12:00 PM gretl-users-request at lists.wfu.edu wrote:

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> From: Rodrigo Alfaro Arancibia <ralfaro at fen.uchile.cl>
> Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] web interface to Gretl
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> Thanks for the messages. A few comments:
>
> (1) Gretl is a friendly package to teach econometrics, but it is also
> capable to do complex tasks required in research. Sometimes, students
> need to know some  econometric tools and playing a little bit with
> them.
>
> (2) I agree: tablets are designed for other purposes, however a
> 'basic-version' of Gretl will be useful for first-time students.
> Indeed, a 'basic-version' will be a very unique package for IPad.
>
> Rodrigo.
>
> 2012/9/6 Talha Yalta <talhayalta at gmail.com>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I think this would be great to have once it becomes that the required
> > effort < coolness factor (which I think is substantial). Also, don't
> > you think it would be possible to charge maybe $1-2 for this?
> > Considering that there are probably thousands of gretl users, many
> > users including students won't object paying a small fee for the
> > convenience and for the sake of supporting. (I know many people who
> > don't mind paying a few dollars for small apps that they don't even
> > use.)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Talha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Sven Schreiber <svetosch at gmx.net> wrote:
> >> On 09/06/2012 02:25 AM, Allin Cottrell wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Rodrigo Alfaro Arancibia wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I use Gretl for teaching applied econometrics. Last semester, some
> >>>> students asked about the possibility of having Gretl on Ipad (I do not
> >>>> have one) Anyway, I found that question on the web and it seems that
> >>>> there is not plan for compiling Gretl on that OS
> >>>> (http://lists.wfu.edu/pipermail/gretl-users/2011-May/006250.html).
> >>>
> >>> No. The gretl user interface is not designed for tablet use (this
> >>> would require a complete redesign). And while tablets are nice for
> >>> some things they are fundamentally the wrong tool for scientific
> >>> computing.
> >>
> >> Hm, I agree that gretl should not be redesigned for tablets, but in
> >> principle I think that its GUI could work nicely there. Yes, not for
> >> thorough scientific computing, but for playing with the data and getting
> >> to know them it would be perfect. I mean, selecting a series, then
> >> creating its first difference via the menu, then looking at the plot
> >> etc. would all be perfect stuff for a tablet -- or even a smartphone
> >> with a large screen. Pretty soon there won't be a real difference
> >> between tablets and phones anymore anyway.
> >>
> >> Even estimating a regression wouldn't be a big deal given gretl's nice
> >> dialogs for that.
> >>
> >> Having said that, of course the underlying technology needs to be ready
> >> first. Maybe relevant in this context:
> >> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Shuttleworth-Ubuntu-to-come-for-tablets-smartphones-and-TVs-in-2014-1368963.html
> >>
> >> So indeed, don't hold your breath.
> >>
> >> cheers,
> >> sven
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ?An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes that can be made
> > in a very narrow field.? - Niels Bohr (1885-1962)
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>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 16:19:56 +0200
> From: Arne Rogde Gramstad <a.r.gramstad at econ.uio.no>
> Subject: [Gretl-users] Exporting *.gdt without losing data labels
> To: gretl-users at lists.wfu.edu
> Message-ID: <504A028C.8080909 at econ.uio.no>
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> Hello.
> I was wondering if it is any way to export a Gretl dataset file (*.gdt)
> to STATA without losing the data labels (as happens when exporting to CSV).
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:04:58 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Allin Cottrell <cottrell at wfu.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Gretl-users] Exporting *.gdt without losing data labels
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> On Fri, 7 Sep 2012, Arne Rogde Gramstad wrote:
>
> > I was wondering if it is any way to export a Gretl dataset file (*.gdt)
> > to STATA without losing the data labels (as happens when exporting to CSV).
>
> That would require that either (a) gretl writes Stata's dta
> format, or (b) Stata reads gretl's gdt format. Neither of
> those things are likely to happen soon.
>
> Allin Cottrell
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